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Old Dec 15, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25   #101
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good idea Langdon, good way to test such a thing.

could u PM or mail me your ingame handle so I can add you when I come online, btw I'm in EU server, hope thats not a problem.
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Old Dec 16, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49   #102
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i got a monk who is easily able to do this, im in yank dists atm, wisp me and ill tell u wen i can come on :P
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Old Dec 17, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21   #103
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Reporting sword build with Silverwing Galrath Quivering and Standing Slash: this is absolutely slower than the axe build. Against Aatxes it's on par with the axe, but against smites; axe is , I'm %100 certain, faster.

If anyone's got anything faster, using sword, feel free to share. But I highly doubt it can compete with the axe, since the sword can't inflict deep wound on smites.
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Old Dec 17, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39   #104
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why don't you use final thrust if you go sword
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Old Dec 17, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47   #105
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Because the already "slow adrenaline building sword", having that skill, will ultimately lose balance, and begin swinging empty slashes, with no attack skills, that deal close to no damage. Axe's every hit is an attack skill, sword takes too much time to build adrenaline.
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Old Dec 18, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58   #106
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Because the already "slow adrenaline building sword", having that skill, will ultimately lose balance, and begin swinging empty slashes, with no attack skills, that deal close to no damage. Axe's every hit is an attack skill, sword takes too much time to build adrenaline.
yes i would have to agree, initially i was testing the evicerate build and i didn't like it. but cleave and penetrating x2 and dismember is pretty fast. the deep wound on the smites made all the difference.

good job kryth.

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the adren problem can be solved with dragon slash, quivering is not that great of a skill imo. for smites, you are constantly spamming attacking skills with sword. the difference lies in dismember.

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Old Dec 18, 2006, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #107
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Thanks man and exactly, that's what I have been trying to tell. Deep Wound is such a source that it not only lowers the max HP of target, but also has a damage, and if u peeps already don't know, the next hit after Deep Wound lowers the target HP by %20, so its a blast when one hits the target with cleave after dismember.

Something like this: Cleave -> Pen 1 -> Pen 2 -> Dismember (Deep Wound) -> Cleave (+ %20 of max hp of target)

That last Cleave bites off a huge chunk outta targets health bar.
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Old Dec 19, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47   #108
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And the question is... Sundering Axe or Elemental Axe. still testing.
As far as we tested, elemental axe's good for aataxe's and sundering for smiters.
max dmg is.... I guess I'm not gonna let you say Kryth.. 116..!! it seems we just owned spoil victor. YAY! (meh...)
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19   #109
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Guide Update

Dying Nightmare updated with Nightmare Trick, also added a picture.

Tips Section Updated for farming code.

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Old Dec 21, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41   #110
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keep up the good work kryth and sapphire
was wondering if you could pm me the testing of sundering/elemental
i have a 19% sundering mod waiting :P
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Old Dec 22, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54   #111
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Definitely Elemental vs Aatxes and Definitely Sundering vs Smiters.

But that requires two axes now
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Old Dec 23, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53   #112
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Humm.I use an SS daily Uw farm and decided to try this for a new spin.Cost me 20k better to arm up my warrior to specs and traveled to UW to find out this is the slowest farm on the planet ...But it works So good!! Good build for noobies in UW

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Old Dec 24, 2006, 05:22 PM // 17:22   #113
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Humm.I use an SS daily Uw farm and decided to try this for a new spin.Cost me 20k better to arm up my warrior to specs and traveled to UW to find out this is the slowest farm on the planet ...But it works So good!! Good build for noobies in UW
soloing uw with an SS with mob scatter is a pain in the ass. I used to do smite runs in 20min with my necro. now i don't because it is frustrating. i figure its still doable with the solo necro, but with the frustration i would have to pass.

back to the warrior topic, anyone try a +20% demonslaying mod?
if you think about it, a +20% enchanting mod for a 16 sec protective spirit isn't really that helpful. 16*.2 =2.2 secs longer. i usually refresh my ps before it starts blinking so i am thinking about try it out.

maybe two axes.
1. Icy axe with +15% enchanted, +20vs demons, customized
2. Sundering Axe with +15% enchanted, +20vs demons, customized

Smites and Aataxes are both demons correct?
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13   #114
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Axe mod of Demonslaying? Interesting. That's a new addition from NF I guess. I don't have NF. But isn't the vs xxx kinda monster or ^+%dmg while xxx are all offensive mods? So to my knowledge its either Demonslaying or +%dmg while under the effects of xxxxx.

And ye I'll pass the frustration also.
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #115
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yeah its +20% vs demons, i would test it but you europeans always hog all the favor :P

its not nightfalls only i got mine back in factions. i got a pair of axes in storage waiting for action =D

edit--

oh and its unconditional its just +20% on all you attacks. I am not sure how it stacks but i have an axe set up this way.
+15% while enchanted
+20 % customized
+20% vs demons.

however i don't know how it stacks. i hope it follows this secenario.

so default = 100

100 *1.15 = 115 damage
115 *1.20 = 138 damage
138 *1.20 = 165.6 damage

or is it

100 *1.55 = 1.55 damage.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56   #116
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nice work on the thread ppl!


btw langdon I don't suppose that aatxes are abaddon's servants eh? :P
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23   #117
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Nice work Langdon

and by the way, it has been discussed I know but we are thinkin of switching the Mo/Me to Me/Mo

with 16 illusion 8 healing and rest in whatever necessary.

Worst case scenario skillbar would be :

Symphatetic Visage
Mending
Watchful
Essence
Breeze
Veng
Reb
----- EMPTY

We are trying to sort out an effective skill to fill in that empty slot for more and more damage to help warrior, also making the support more active. The best part is that it could also be elite

Only drawback would be that the mes has to use Breeze more now.

Edit : Oh wait Judge's!! lol ^_^

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56   #118
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Currently there is a build that can solo UW efficiently as fast as the old Rt/Me, so no need for dual runs anymore.
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Old Dec 30, 2006, 12:11 AM // 00:11   #119
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and what is that?
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Old Dec 30, 2006, 12:15 AM // 00:15   #120
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God Kryth never noticed that was you there. Great guide, just started my Warrior so hopefully get this tried soon
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